User talk:Ugozima/Gielinorchat

Of course you can!
Seeing as you've already created your own series (nice work by the way) I presume you know the whole idea of story structure (past tense, third person etc.). Also, the main way of solving the crossover problem between Avarrocka 177 and Gielinor is the same way which Fegaxeyl is using Bruce Brysworth and Jigo is using Jake. The method of getting round the problem would be that Dancus exists in two separate timelines or "universes" as they're called. Gielinor is part of the Gielinorverse and other series like Time Fractures are part of the Runiverse (a name I coined) in hopes of preventing continuity errors. For instance, if Gielinor was in the Runiverse I would not be able to set any stories in the future, I wouldn't be able to use Sir Amik and Farmer Fred and the world would be different because of the alien invasion arcs and futuristic weapons. Anyway, hope that solves that, and I look forward to reading your chapter. Plus, I'm extending series one to maybe 22 episodes because there's little room left! Mr. Garrison 17:34, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Okay, and now you should have enough room to put a chapter or two in for starters! Mr. Garrison 20:03, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

My apologies for forgetting to tell you; the treachery is taking place in Ardougne. Could your story make it look like it is Varrock but have it turn out a mistake, with Dancus questioning what is really going on. Plus, get him going towards Ardougne for the finale, it's going to be epic! Mr. Garrison 20:44, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Brilliant idea! But keep Reldo in the library alive or not have him in there because he's needed for another story arc. Mr. Garrison 21:01, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi Ugozima, that's an interesting perspective of events! Is it set within Dancus' thoughts on his situation? Or a story he's telling? And could you make all the GE items into the full words because the series is set as though Gielinor's a real world. Apart from that, brilliant opening! Dancus sure seems determined. Mr. Garrison 22:05, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Is your chapter over already? Mr. Garrison 10:41, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Okay, remember to save some spaces though for the rest of the season! And if you have any new characters to introduce, please add them before Episode 14 so that things don't get any more complex, as I fear that not all plot lines will be tied up in time. Keep in mind that anything that can't fit in this season can easily go into the second season. Mr. Garrison 12:23, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

The exception would be if it was just a one-off character who doesn't require a backstory and individual story arc, plus I have a new character for Episode 19, and that character will be the last one. Mr. Garrison 12:34, 17 May 2008 (UTC)

Hi Ugozima, if you need to tie up Drancus' plot could you please do so in Chapter 17/18. This episode may need to be written in 3rd person (ie "he" instead of "I") because the episode may also be needed to link up with other characters. In 21/22 there will be a battle in Ardougne, would you like Drancus to compete? Mr. Garrison 18:33, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Firstly, my apologies lol I just noticed the typo. Obviouslly Dancus needs to find the killer, so you will need an episode to sort this out. I thought Episode 17 would be best as it is the next available one. By link up I mean meet up (link up isn't the best of phrases) to fight against Lathas and his army because Lathas is the cause of the economy crisis. How would you feel about ending the episode with Dancus finding a note or something which will inform him the murder took place on behalf of Lathas? I want Dancus to reveal all to Tarqinder/Mark/Veedi/Jake/Norbert and the rest of the group. The evil dude's characters will probably be fighting as well, and as Tony comes from Varrock as well as Dancus maybe they could fight together, but I'll have to ask the evil dude to write his character in. You're also free to write Dancus' role in the finalé and he is welcome to return in seires two as long as you don't choose to kill him off. Mr. Garrison 20:56, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, that's a good ending. In the next episode (providing it isn't taken) the group (I'm guessing you mean Tarqinder and the others - correct me if I'm wrong) he will tell them his findings and the group can go off and begin to plan, but I'm not entirely sure where. I'll ask the evil dude if he wants to team up with the group as well (it shall be a very grand battle) as well as Fegaxeyl so that everyone can write the finalé together. Mr. Garrison 21:09, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Brilliant chapter. Mr. Garrison 15:56, 19 May 2008 (UTC)

Good point. Remember if I include anything about Dancus you don't like please tell me. Mr. Garrison 16:13, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

I know its probably a secret, but could you explain why/how Dancus can revive? I'm interested to know, plus next season he should use his Seer powers a lot more. Mr. Garrison 22:47, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

Ah-a! Unicorn hairs! Could we perhaps introduce a new type of potion that is somehow like necromancy, but without the shambling undead it would bring you to full life? Mr. Garrison 23:52, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

I have two ideas, one: the wizards have it stashed away deep in the Wizards' Guild, or two: Dancus isn't revived in this series but in series two with a necromancer which could somehow lead into a necromancy story arc or something similar, what do you prefer? Mr. Garrison 09:50, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

Okay then, and I like the new signature! Mr. Garrison 13:43, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

I like the idea of him remaining as a ghost with the Zamorakian Sorceress. The main story arc won't be necromancy, but this will still be an important part. All we need now is for Fegaxeyl and the evil dude to finish up their chapters and then we can begin work on the finalé, and trust me, it's gonna be epic! Mr. Garrison 13:49, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

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I would've said yes, but for volume two everyone will be going their separate ways (and some will be dead as well), so calling them a gang would be a bit confusing to those who have not read. They may all meet up again one day, but I can confirm that Tarqinder, Mark and Veedi will not be encountering any of the others for a long while. I've got some new characters to bring in and an important new story arc (it won't evolve a big battle in the finalé though). As Dancus will be temporarily killed in a time not too far off, I will have split from the group when they return to Ardougne via teleportation, or if you want I can make things easier and just have him not teleported, which will also give him his own part to play leading up to his "death". Will Raiah debut in Battle of Ardougne or season two? Could I ask you do it in this episode so that the series can end on an uncertain note? Mr. Garrison 21:09, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Dancus' Death
Everyone is about to storm into Ardougne Palace now, so I wondered if you wanted Dancus to make it to Lathas first so he can be killed. I'm also leaving a point for the evil dude's characters who are going to be killed to be killed off. When Lathas is stopped the group will take Dancus' body and bury him (along with the other deceased characters), and from there you can do what you want for the end of season cliffhanger (ie. Raiah is seen digging up the grave and then taking Dancus' coffin away...), but of course if you want it to be a start of season thing then you can. I only request it be episode 2 or later because I want to write the first episode to start off a new story arc for Tarqinder and Mark. Mr. Garrison 10:12, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

Gielinor
Hi Ugozima,

Will Dancus remain as a ghost floating about with the other characters? Or will Raiah trap him somehow in her necromancy area on the coast near Hermenster? By the way I made a few changes, and moved the funeral scene to a later point so my characters could get a proper send-off. I need you to know that the group will split now, making their own ways for Volume Two for which I will deliver a "press release" for. By the way, is Dancus meant to be an all-powerful Seer? Cos I don't want it ending up with him doing loads of different powers like something out of Heroes. If you don't mind could you limit him to just being a Seer, able to revive and capable of moving the odd object or person with his mind. Mr. Garrison 18:47, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Oh cool, so he's connected to the gods themselves? I want to keep the characters separated for now cos there's lots of new plots/characters to introduce, so communications isn't an issue (yet). I can't thank you enough for your contributions to Volume One, and sorry - I couldn't resist adding in a final final scene to explain Lathas' fate. I'm going to reveal the story arc for Volume Two as soon as everyone ties up their final scenes, and it will be something disastrous for the entire planet. I've even got plans for Volumes Three and the start of Four as well, so things certainly look good for Gielinor. This new Volume will be very different from the first, withevents taking more complex paths to reach a conclusion. Would you like me to save Chapter 2 for you so you can get Dancus' plot up-and-running quickly? And thanks again, and a press release will follow very soon... Mr. Garrison 22:33, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Firstly I changed the year because Lathas I realised is quite old in game, and 16 years later would make him far too old to lead an army so I went 10 years back and fixed characters ages. Plus a lot could happen in 16 years, and I didn't want to move too far away from the game itself. Plus, Veedi doesn't have romantic interest in Dancus, she only feels sympathy for him because of his loss (she is the same with Mark) and she doesn't like the idea of him being victim to so much power such as being a Seer and constantly dying... Mr. Garrison 12:43, 5 July 2008 (UTC)

Gielinor: Volume Two
Set two months after "The Battle of Ardougne", Gielinor continues its stories of the inhabitants of its world, and the various situations they come across. The world is rebuilding from the economy crisis, but is now beginning to get well and truly back up on its feet. Volume Two will consist of 30 chapters this time, and will feature many individual story arcs and new characters, but all will be linked to a new problem - one which will affect everyone everywhere. Gielinor is about to be hit by a freak condition dubbed "global warming", and the sea levels are flooding the Lumbridge Swamps slowly but surely, and storms are hitting Karamja with no concern over the many who lie dead in its wake. Volume Two will officially launch on July 17th/18th with chapter one being written by myself, but after you are welcome to add your own at will!
 * Mr. Garrison 19:33, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

Looks (and sounds) good to me! And an unexpected plot twist? I'll be looking out for that one... Mr. Garrison 14:01, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Hey Ugozima, you missed out an "n" in Hemenster for your episode title. Mr. Garrison 23:21, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Done, chapter ten is yours! Mr. Garrison 10:51, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

This might seem like an odd request, but could you tkae off the link to the eBay story on Stories of Hemenster, it kinda "breaks the fourth wall" of the stories. I slipped in a little hint of Raiah's experimentations in "Veedi's Quest" when Veedi heads through Hemenster, if oy odn't like I'll remove it. Mr. Garrison 12:30, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

No problem, it's removed. By the way, I quite like the narrative of your stories, is it like a diary documentation of some sorts? Mr. Garrison 16:42, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, reserving episodes will be no problem. Eventually, all story arcs will start stranding together, apart from Veedi's. Veedi will become a lot more central following the events of Volume Three and Four, and something very dangerous to almost anyone is in the making which will make for some very dark episodes. I wish for Veedi to remain separated from the other characters, and Volume Three will follow a different format and Four will be a complete change to the series. I must warn you beforehand, after this volume there will be a very long gap until regular story arcs and plots resuem, so please please please tie up all arcs by the end of this volume and plan ahead for a possible volume five. If need be Volume Two will become lengthened to 35 episodes. Thanks, and I enjoyed "Stories of Hemenster". Mr. Garrison 12:18, 25 July 2008 (UTC)

Hi Ugozima, in the evil dude's story "Evil from the Depths" Duke Horacio is captured by the sealife army and remains trapped there, so could you change it to some sort of stand in Duke or just refer to him as "the stand-in Duke" on the first mention. Mr. Garrison 16:05, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

Is it essential to the plot to set Atra Nox at Easter? Because it contradicts a comment made by either Harmon or Lathas back in volume one as well as volume two being set two months after Battle of Ardougne. Unless, this is a late Raktuber Easter by the way... Mr. Garrison 21:42, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

That would work out fine, and in Revival's Road where you pointed out all the dilemmas that Gielinor is facing it made me realise just how much is going on. Volume Two will be increased to 38 episodes I think. Mr. Garrison 22:17, 27 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Im fine with it. Arnie 10:39, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

That's an interesting start! Like the idea of the whole eclipse for 14 hours (just a question, this won't involve the Easter bunny or people using magic to blow half of Falador up will it?), or do I detect a chance of revival for Dancus? Will Dancus and Raiah meet up with the other characters for the final few chapters, because Hemenster is on a lake, so it might be recieving a visit from the sealife army. Anyway, an extra 5 chapters have been added so everyone can tie up story arcs and begin making their way to Falador and then to the coast (unless you wish for Dancus and Raiah to remain hidden away or absent from the finale). Mr. Garrison 20:00, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Lol I'm good at figuring story arcs out (well, being imaginative with them but usually get them wrong in the end), plus it'll be good to see a certain someone in better conditions! Mr. Garrison 20:23, 28 July 2008 (UTC)

Actually, "someone in better conditions" can be interpreted two ways, I've just realised...ha! You gave a good lead for that one! And I understand why yuo want a few chapters, so I don't mind you reserving them (I'd rather have a nice flowing story arc than something rushed and ruined), but for 27 could you tie up the arc and possibly have them tele to Faldaor, as that has become a haven now, as below is a list of all the problems other areas face... So, will you be able to make it to Falador and then aid the fight against Sharkros (or otherwise help those ill from the ash and smoke of Crandor? Mr. Garrison 22:11, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
 * 1) Lumbridge is flooding badly because of the low level swamps
 * 2) Varrock has been evacuated due to the Red Mist
 * 3) Catherby is in a poor state after Sharkros arrived
 * 4) Ardougne is about to have an encounter with some eels so it'll be isolated
 * 5) Yanille is in silence for this volume
 * 6) Sarim and Rimmington are under attack from sealife
 * 7) Crandor is going to be destroyed by a volcano
 * 8) Karamja has been conquered
 * 9) TzHaar has been flooded
 * Oh, and Morytania aren't up for "cattle" as Drakan would say

Hi Ugozima, I was thinking - as both our storylines involve a necromanceress, what do you think of us combining our storylines at some point, and having Raiah and Hecate meet and know each other from earlier times. My characters will be arriving near the Dark Wizards tower so we could have our storylines converge around there. Fegaxeyl 07:47, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * As in know each other as old friends. It would be cool if it were to happen, though if you have other plans then I'm okay with that - when everyone else meets up near the end we can just have Raiah and Hecate meet then. Well, that's all for now. --Fegaxeyl 14:01, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, I'll do a joint chapter. All I request is that you don't kill Varze, for I don't like the idea of killing off actual RuneScape characters (I don't mind some kind of general hich isn't in the game, like a made up leader). Though, with your story arc, anything is possible, so reviving Varze would work. Mr. Garrison 12:00, 29 July 2008 (UTC)